Converted from page to post… its just the same old post I wrote a year back.. Just that, I didn’t like too many pages on the blog.
Hi,
This is my first post after joining IIT. I had given more than a couple of interviews and finally landed up in IIT Bombay with specialisation in EE . I am a basically a comp science guy and had appeared for GATE in comp science. You’ll be wondering why did I choose EE rather than CS. I’ll tell you the whole build up to how we both(EE & I) chose each other. Also, I am more than glad that I have discovered that programming is not everything after joining EE and thus being myself and not following the herd.
I’ll start this with the GATE preparations. Aspirants seeking guidelines for preparing GATE CS might like to look at my post “GATE CS Prepare”. I had done pretty well in the preparation of GATE and also featured in top 25 in 2 out of 4 tests that I appeared in GATEFORUM although I had not completed the syllabus. But I screwed up the GATE exam very badly and was able to score only 98.21 percentile(a pathetic rank of 747). The reasons of my failure were a plenty…..
1>I had prepared for GATE solving the previous year problems rather than reading the entire theory/content. I had approached GATE with a problem oriented frame of mind.
2> Did not take Software Engg and Web seriously as it was newly introduced to the syllabus.
3> Had not completed even half of the compiler design.
4> Due to some external factors couldn’t prepare well in last 15 days right before the exam.
But, never the matter, i didn’t loose heart and applied for IITs and IISc for both MS(R) and M.Tech in hope that I ‘ll crack the test and interview if given a chance as some of my friends, whom I used to beat them in the preparatory test to GATE had secured ranks in double figure. Believing in myself was important at the time of applying. I had prepared well for Engg Maths and Discrete Maths and those were the strong points for me. I also had very good exposure of C Programming and had always done better in these areas than my counterparts.
IITB – CS [25th may'09]
After a few frustrating weeks, I indeed got my first call that too from IITB for a test & interview for M.Tech in Computer Science. There were around 400+ guys competing for it. The questions in the test were basically from Discrete Maths especially Graph Theory ang logic, Analytical skills, C Programming and one problem on computer networks. There were in total 20 questioons divided into 4 areas- Maths, Analytical skills, Computer science, and C Programming. I cleared the test with good scores. There were around 60-80 candidates selected for the next round. I outscored my friends who had a secured a rank of 100 odd. That was heartening to me. I had appeared in GATE with a desire to do my Masters in Priority 1 -Wireless communication orPriority 2- Artificial Intelligence, Before the tests we were introduced to various Assistantships as well as projects by the faculties of CS. My old love wireless did feature in a couple of projects and I didn’t find them very innovative. So, I decide upon NLP my second preference. We were supposed to give out our two preferences in order for the interviews. I luckily ended up getting selected for the interview on both the preferences which I had opted for namely, NLP and Machine Translation. Both of them somehow related to AI. I also had descent knowledge of NLP. One of the better books for NLP is “Speech and Language Processing” the one written by Jurafsky and Martin.
I waited for more than 5 hours for my turn to come…. and finally I was the last man to be inerviewed. I was interviewd by Prof Pushpak Bhatacharya. By the way, Prof. Pushpak is a stalwart in NLP and has developed wordnet libraries for many Indian languages and also heads the NLP group comprising of IIT-B, IIT-D, IIIT-H and a few more institutes. As soon as I entered, the first thing that was conveyed to me was that its a short interview and will be of not more than5 minutes. The interview generally last more than 20 to 40 minutes. I was also told that I had scored heavily in the test. That gave me some confidence. But my confidence came crashing down when a question was asked on recurrence relation and I wasn’t able to solve. I was also asked a question on Generating function and again i failed miserably. Finally, I corrected a couple of mistakes committed in the written test as I was asked to. He did turn up with the question as what was my strong area and I replied confidently “NLP” and my interview ended abruptly after asking my job profile which was then a a developer/researcher in NLP domain at TRDDC….
I had screwed up my interview badly and facial expression was to say it all. Before leaving, Prof did try to console me by telling that the results are not dependent only on interview rather they’ll be also taking into account the GATE rank, test marks and profile. But, i knew i had lost.
After, a week the results were announced and as expected i could not make it.
MS(R) , SERC, IISc[9th june'09]
Next interview I was called for was from SERC , IISc . None of the areas mentioned in the list interested me but still I wanted to face the heat and went for the interview giving my preference as Databases which consisted of XML databases, Query optimization, etc… although not being of my interest . This group is headed by Prof Haritsa and he is considered to be one of the top 3 in Databases in India. I appeared for the test and easily cleared it. There were 5 questiona nd time given was informally 20-25 minutes. The questions were related to Speed-distance, code snippet, Analytical skills. Out of 30 odd, they had selected 3. Soon after the test my interview was taken and most of the answers that came from me were ” I don’t know” as they were specific to database ansd I hardly had any clue. Also, i didn’t like to do the guess work as it is not advisable during interview. Also, I did enjoy the interview as I didn’t have much interest in joining it. Finally, i was let off in a formal way although it could have been otherwise..worse[kicked.. no...hair-dryer treatment .... save me...]. But somehow, I escaped all these. But, one thing is sure , IISc has the best campus. I really loved the greenery there.
EE, IIT-Bombay [25th june'09]
While applying for IIT-Bombay, I had also written other department mentioning EE and hence, i got a call. I had applied for communications thinking that in case I get “Wireless” specialisation, I would grab it with both hands. I had applied only for communications as there was no point applying for streams which do not interest me much. I wrote the test and again cracked it. Only two comp science guys could clear it.. that too the other guy although had written GATE in CS but had a background in EE. There were 25 questions out of which any 20 were to be answered. There was almost equal number of questions in mathematics and electrical related. Surprisingly, I was one of the toppers in the test among communications guys although I didn’t know half of the question paper. I might have been lucky as there was no negative marking and I had guessed the electrical questions with some intuitions. Anyways, I thought this was my day. I was interviewed by a panel of 5 prof/asst. prof. I wasn’t asked any of the questions on electrical, rather I was asked a couple of linux commands, Mobile adhoc metwork scenarios, networking protocols ARP and my data mining. Data mining and Mobil ad hoc network questions came up due to its mention in my resume. Interview was pretty easy and cool. I was quite confident and answered everything to te point. Although, the interview took around half an hour , I never felt it took more than 5 minutes where as the interview I faced against Prof Pushpak I felt just the reverse(5 min interview as half an hour ). I was confident of my selection but you never know. i finally got the result on 7th July and I was assigned a Project RA in Wireless and Sensor Networking under Professor Merchant. I finally talked to professor about the project and a couple of my friends and finally decide to give a shot.
Here in EE, I realized that Programming is an essential part and not everything. Infact, mathematical foundations are an essential armoury for computer science wich I wouldn’t have got, had I joined the CS dept.
But, the path to knowledge becomes more difficult as I also need to cope up with the foundations of EE and Maths at the same time. But, you aren’t well contented unless you do something which is hard to get.
More about GATE preparations and life in IIT will be coming … Keep watching this space
36 responses to “GATE IIT Admissions”
anitha
December 11th, 2010 at 19:36
what is the degree cut of marks for getting seat in iit i hav 54% am i eligible
whiteswami
December 13th, 2010 at 09:33
You don’t need to bother about your marks as there’s no eligibility criteria. Just crack GATE with a good rank.
vikash
January 8th, 2011 at 14:08
what is the degree cut of marks for getting seat in all the iit i hav 53% in btech. i am eligible for top iit if i get good rank in gate within 200 hundread.
whiteswami
January 8th, 2011 at 20:33
check this link: http://gate.iitm.ac.in/gate2011/eligibility.php
There’s no cut-off on the percentage or grade.
ravi
January 29th, 2011 at 23:50
great success story !!!!!!!!!!!!!full of enjoyment and strugle for aim!!!!!
it will help me alot in my future!!! thanks sir!!!!!
Malik Pridgett
February 7th, 2011 at 11:32
You’re posting great,though the latter paragraph I’ve got a tiny bit to don’t understand, could you please produce an explain?
BIBEK BEHERA
February 16th, 2011 at 05:58
hi,
i am a btech graduate from iit kharagpur.2009 batch.i gave gate in cs this year.if i get a good ranking will i get into iits or iisc…please clarify i am quite confused that sinc ei have given gate in cs and come from ee background,is it the right way…..
avinash singh
February 18th, 2011 at 23:15
hey nice to here your story.I want to know if a rank around 300 in gate can help me to get direct admission in itt bombay,delhi,kanpur,chenni in cs branch or i will defintely need to give the interviews.
whiteswami
February 19th, 2011 at 08:45
Not in IIT Bombay but yes in other IITs. Don’t be stingy in filling up the forms. Fill all the forms and later on you can decide what to take and what not to take.
Rohit
February 22nd, 2011 at 23:37
Hi,
I am Rohit in final year (from ggsipu university) also a GATE aspirant, but when i decided to appear for GATE it was too late (JAN 2011), so i couldn’t really prepare well for 2011 GATE. I expect to qualify GATE but not with good marks.
The problem: I have accenture job letter. So, i have 2 options either to drop an year for GATE or to join company…
I do not want to be in research or teaching career. but just a degree from a good reputed college. And, I love algorithms, data structure and i am good at programming.
So, kindly suggest me if it is worth dropping an year for GATE or to increase no of years of experience… coz even if i qualify GATE(in 2012) i would have lost 3 years of experience at end of my M. Tech…
Kindly Reply!!
Thank You
whiteswami
February 23rd, 2011 at 02:11
There’s a trade-off in whatever you do. You are the best person to decide because you know what you finally want. Is it something temporal or is it on a longer run? One thing is for sure that, You can indeed have a good learning curve if you do your masters and have tools/foundations to take it further. Where as in terms of salary , you never know , which would be higher: complete your masters or after 3 yrs of experience. It all depends on your performance and above all your passion.
You might as well like to consider the option of doing Masters outside India, and work-ex of 1 year would be a plus. You might start preparing for GRE now and write the test in july-aug month and start masters in 2012.
With Regards,
RKM
Rohit
February 23rd, 2011 at 14:51
Hi RKM,
Thanks for your reply.
But, I couldn’t completely understand what you meant by “temporal” and “long run”.
Which 1 option would lead to a temporal satisfaction and and other to long run satisfaction?
The thing is i am enthusiastic about doing m tech from IITs. And, the other side of the story is I am kind of scared when i think about “droping an year” for it. Salary wont be a big issue. Issue is even if don’t make it to IITs after an year, then what? And, the other option of GRE is a costly affair.
whiteswami
February 24th, 2011 at 01:04
According to me, doing masters would do you good in the longer run. But mind you this is my opinion which might be biased.
chirag
May 6th, 2011 at 18:27
hi,
i am final year student of computer science and i have been called for GNR branch in IIT Bombay
Could you give me any idea what questions they can ask in interview for GNR branch..
reply soon plzzzz
whiteswami
May 6th, 2011 at 23:16
No idea
R.Duraiarasan
May 9th, 2011 at 20:57
hi
i am final year M.Sc.Software Engineering(5 years) student from tamil nadu. i had one doubt regaurding my career. is this possible to do M.S/Ph.D after completing my M.Sc degree
whiteswami
May 9th, 2011 at 23:41
Yes indeed!
Mrinal
May 27th, 2011 at 14:03
Great story,
i have call 4m iit rajasthan and indian statistical institute(ISI) , kolkata. Which should i prefer ? And which is better ISI, Kolkata or NIT(W/T/S/C…)
whiteswami
September 12th, 2011 at 14:09
Sorry for the delayed reply, the mail simply slipped through the cracks
. Hope you have already taken admission.
Shradha
May 30th, 2011 at 12:14
hey.. m shradha. hav sumwat same story like you. i hav jst completed btech in CS&E and written gate xam in CS. got 98.9 percentile and hav got a call from IITB in Electrical Engineering department-Communication , Microelectronics, Control and Computing. I lyk the 1st 2 fields. now i’l be faced with the written test and intrvw in july so i wanted to know how should i prepare for.
ur suggestions will indeed be vry useful 4 me.hope 2 get a rply frm u soon
whiteswami
May 31st, 2011 at 17:40
I think micro electronics would be very very difficult for you considering your CS background. Communication would be the best. You can really learn a lot of CS fundamentals in Communication. And, hence what you need to prepare is computer networking, some maths especially probability and few application projects. Send me across your resume and I’ll be able to guide you better.
Regards,
Rahul
roshni
May 31st, 2011 at 00:14
i am a first year student of cse. i want to know what programming languages i need to learn to clear gate. i want to take up teaching as a profession. kindly help me out as i am confused because there are so many languages
whiteswami
May 31st, 2011 at 18:44
I think you just need to concentrate on 1 procedural oriented language, preferably C. And once you have mastered it , go for 1 OOP language like C++, Java, etc.
Let me know if you need to know the resources for the same.
Regards,
Rahul
roshni
May 31st, 2011 at 22:21
Thanks! I am using Let us C by Y kanetkar for C. Which should I opt for – Java or C++? I already know Visual Basic and Oracle. Kindly let me know.
Sudeshna
June 24th, 2011 at 22:51
Thanks for the great post! I have the same question as Roshni. What OOPS language would be better for GATE – Java or C++?
whiteswami
June 24th, 2011 at 23:23
C++
Atul Srivastava
September 11th, 2011 at 14:06
hii sir ….
i m feeling nice to see your post. I have done M.C.A. from B.H.U. and now i m reparing for GATE-12 . I have one question. Is it written test n interview in all iit after got good score in gate.
whiteswami
September 12th, 2011 at 14:07
You might directly be interviewed in case you get good rank.
karthikkrishna2012
September 26th, 2011 at 18:07
Hi there, i am a student of engineering in the stream of electronics. but for some reason i have an interest in computers. and it is still growing. my question is really simple. with me being from EC and interested in computers, is it possible for me to write a the GATE exam with the CS syllabus ? I mean i wish to do my Mtech in CS, so do i have to give the GATE exam in EC or CS ? i really prefer giving the GATE exam in CS rather than in EC. is it possbile ? should i start my preparations in CS ?
whiteswami
September 26th, 2011 at 19:19
You should infact write GATE in CS . Many students do this. But, you need to work doubly hard in case you are going to start now as you are already late.
Mahesh
October 6th, 2011 at 16:18
Sir,
I am just about to start preparation for GATE 2014. I am currently in my 2nd year(CS Branch). I want to know whether Graph Theory would be a good topic to start off with?
Please suggest me the chapters that I need to study from Narsingh Deo OR do I have to study the whole book…? Also recommend a single good book for Discrete Mathematics…Thanks in advance.
whiteswami
October 7th, 2011 at 01:23
Absolutely OK to start with Graph theory. Also try to read algorithms and data structures at the start.
Chapters from Deo: Ch1-5,7-9,11
Discrete math and its applications by Rosen
vikas
October 12th, 2011 at 19:33
Hi
now im doing btech 2 year in cs (hyderabad),how should we select the subject in mtech based on the background in btech or on our intrest
whiteswami
October 12th, 2011 at 23:51
Cross the bridge when it comes. Build strong foundations for the time being. Then, explore your interest.
gandhara
February 22nd, 2012 at 22:10
How did you get a call from IITB – CS with a rank of 747 ?
Did you apply for regular MTech or as RA/PA ?
whiteswami
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:46
RA. Dude you cannot get TA with such a rank. Apply logic.
Regards,
Rahul K Mishra
http://www.ee.iitb.ac.in/student/~rahulkmishra
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